Hi Harold,

Thanks for the issue.
I think the following suggestion makes sense.

(In reply to Harald Koester from comment #0)

> Proposal in order to fix this bug: 
> If a user profile does not exist and LibreOffice is started the first time,
> the predefined templates should be copied into the new user profile. Hence
> the user has the right to delete files and folders in his profile, it should
> be possible to delete predefined templates and folders.

Cheers - Cor

(no idea since when, let me set the version on 4.4.0 rough)

I think, that it is correct, that it is not allowed, that a user can delete files and folders from the "share" directory.

Copying files to the users directory would not help, because he would still see those from the "share" directory.

If you have admin-rights you can delete the folders in shares/templates or move them to another location. If you are an enterprise you might exchange the templates in folder share with your own ones. So I think, there is nothing to do inside LibreOffice.

Hi Regina,

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #2)
> I think, that it is correct, that it is not allowed, that a user can delete
> files and folders from the "share" directory.
> 
> Copying files to the users directory would not help, because he would still
> see those from the "share" directory.
Of course in this case the content of the "share" folder should no longer be displayed. Instead the content of the template folder within the user profile should be displayed.

> If you have admin-rights you can delete the folders in shares/templates or
> move them to another location. If you are an enterprise you might exchange
> the templates in folder share with your own ones. So I think, there is
> nothing to do inside LibreOffice.
To my opinion it's always not a good idea to copy files, in this case template files, to a program folder. Enterprise templates should better be copied into a specific folder, e.g. on a network server, and an additional path pointing to this folder should be added in the path options of LibreOffice.

Meanwhile the new template manager has been introduced. But the general problem still exists, it is not possible to delete predefined templates and categories (previously folders)in the template manager. (Version 5.4.1, Win 7)

Bug still exists in version 6.1.1 (64 bit, Win10).

For me, Harald Koesters proposals are the preferable solution! 

The actual situation is simply a mess and we can't work with this. Having several templates for myself, my wife, my company and another company I'm working for, I'd like to have such a selection first and after that a second selection distinguishing between text, spreadsheet, presentation etc. Even for text-documents for one client (f.e. my wife), there are several templates like official letter, personal letter, invoice, order for certain material etc. Could you imagine, how confusing it would be, to start a document having all the standard templates shwon first, even we are never using them.

At least should be possible, to ban all that standard templates into a new Category like "LibreOfficeSTANDARD" and to delete all the standard categories!

Actually, based on this issue, we don't use the LO-Starter but created an own one as well on LINUX as on WINDOWS, using the file-manager referencing to "our" categories.

Please improve that messy situation soon.

Thank you and best regards
Michael

(In reply to Michael from comment #8)

Hi Michael,
please don't touch version and hardware, unless you knwo what you do ;)
See section "sorting" om this page
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA

Ciao - Cor

I still think, that it is correct, that a user cannot change the content of the "share" folder. What would you expect to happen then, in case two users are working with LibreOffice at the same time?

But I can think of an option to allow users to hide a complete category or to hide single files from a category. That would give an easier access to the wanted templates for one user and keep all templates available to another user.

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #10)
> I still think, that it is correct, that a user cannot change the content of
> the "share" folder. What would you expect to happen then, in case two users
> are working with LibreOffice at the same time?

With my proposal to copy the templates to the user profile, when a new profile is created, it is not necessary to change the content of the share folder. Then a user can do everything what he wants to do with the templates (use, delete, change, translate). In the case of two users there is also no problem. Each person uses its own user profile with the templates which are needed. And if there are further templates which are used by several persons at the same time, these templates can be copied to separate folder, which can be seized by these users.


> But I can think of an option to allow users to hide a complete category or
> to hide single files from a category. That would give an easier access to
> the wanted templates for one user and keep all templates available to
> another user.
An option to hide templates or template categories does not convince me. To my opinion it makes the template manager more complicated. A user has to understand the file structure with the respective access rights behind this function, in order to use the hide function. This is not necessary with my proposal.

*** Bug 121870 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Per your email, I tested this defect using Version: 6.2.8.2 (x64) running on a Win10 machine. I could not delete any of the three pre-defined templates I tried.

Bug still exists in version 7.0.3 (64 bit, Win10).

*** Bug 152564 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***